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13 November 2003 — Fragments (21)

Lately I've had zipper trouble. I've been forgetting to zip my pants. Yesterday I went to the bathroom at about three o'clock. At about seven, I was sitting in my writing class, reclined in my seat, when I noticed that my fly was wide open. It had been open for four hours! And this is typical of what's been happening. I'm getting old.


Quoth Rick, my writing instructor:

  • "You never need an exclamation point!"
  • "Language: you can't stop it."
  • "Anyone read A Farewell to Arms? A fantastic book. If you didn't like it, I suggest you read it again."

From last night:

I've just left the Clackamas Community College parking lot, and am turning onto the highway, when a deer saunters across the road. It's not bolting, as you might expect; it's sort of prancing, unconcerned with traffic. What is it doing here, in the middle of the city?

Well, it's not much of a city I guess:

All during class my stomach was growling. I'm hungry. What I really want is Chinese food. Grocery-store deli Chinese food. There's a Haggen next to the college, and I figure that I can just pop over there on the way home to pick up some Szechuan Beef or General Tsao's Chicken. What luck! Rick let's us out early.

I dash to my car and out of the parking lot. I pass the aforementioned deer and pull into Haggen. I dart to the deli, but what do I find? It's 9:20 and they've already taken down the Chinese food. I can smell it everywhere, though. The savory smell of onions and peppers and garlic and breaded meats. Fried rice! Noodles! Eggrolls! Surely they must have something they can sell me? But, no. Then I see it: a trash can filled unsold Chinese food. What a waste! Am I to go hungry because of this?

If this were a real city, I'd be able to find Chinese food at 9:30 p.m.

I hurry home and, though it's little consolation, I boil a package of ramen noodles.


We've now written two drafts each of two different stories for class. You've seen both drafts of one of the stories here. To finish the term, we are to write two more drafts of one of these stories. I actually prefer the story that you haven't seen yet (Bibliophilic: A Love Story — heh) and would like to finish it. I've decided to work on Singular Image, however, for two reasons:

  1. I'm less likely to polish that story without motivation because I'm less interested in it.
  2. By choosing that story, I can continue to share what happens during the writing process.
I dearly wish that the third draft was not due next week; I have a busy weekend planned and don't anticipate much time for writing. I guess I know what I'll be doing next Tuesday night…


[Enter Grammar Boy...]

So, I may have ranted about this before, but even if I have, it's worth ranting again.

Everyone makes grammar mistakes. Even those of us who, as pompous asses, go around correcting your grammar mistakes. We make them, too. Ours just aren't as bad as yours. In general.

Some grammar mistakes are so bad that it takes superhuman restraint for me to keep my mouth shut. But that's why, as Grammar Boy, I am a superhero. One of my superpowers is the Power to Bite My Tongue.

Not today.

Via metafilter, I found this article on English grammar. It reminded me of one of the mistakes I hate most: the improper use of the word I in place of the word me.

It seems that many people were corrected as children when they said "Jim and me went to the store" or "Me and Jim went to the store". Their parents and teachers corrected them: "Jim and I went to the store." And that's fine. The parents and teachers were correct. It is "Jim and I went to the store".

It is not ever "Jim came with Lisa and I". Argh. It is only through my Grammar Boy powers that I'm able to withstand the pain of typing that sentence. Things do not happen to "I". Things happen to "me".

Some are under the impression that any time they include themselves in a list of people, the correct word to use is "I". This is only true if you are the subject of the sentence. If, as in the example above, Jim is the subject of the sentence, then you are not "I', you are "me".

If you have trouble with this concept, here's an easy check to determine which word you should use. Remove all other pronouns from the clause and check that it sounds correct. Would you say "Jim came with I"? Of course not! So why on Earth would you say "Jim came with Lisa and I"? Don't do it! It's dreadful. It sounds worse than you can possibly imagine.

[...Exit Grammar Boy (who also doubles as Hyperbole Man)]

Comments
On 13 November 2003 (08:25 AM), dowingba said:

Me like grammar. Chinese food is good for I and he (you).


On 13 November 2003 (08:33 AM), Denise said:

Ok - I'm horrible with verb tense....but I do know the me/I rule! I promise - I'll never do that...unless I want to irritate you.


On 13 November 2003 (08:45 AM), mac said:

i don't know the me i rule...sorry


On 13 November 2003 (09:27 AM), Lynn said:

Violations of this rule bother me as well. I received an e-mail from a friend announcing her pregnancy, Denise knows about this one, and this is how it read:
"This is going to be a big change in *Tom* and I's life, but I'm sure it will be worth it."
(Names have been changed to protect the innocent.) The clincher on this faux pas is that this girl is a teacher!


On 13 November 2003 (09:57 AM), Amanda said:

They call me Grammar, Spelling and Punctuation Nazi. Flattering, no?

Oh, and I leave my zipper down all the time. It's really weird. It only began within the past six months or so... I go to the bathroom, manage to button my pants, but somewhere between flushing and departing the whole zipper thing completely falls by the wayside. I do it at home, at work, in public, everywhere. Such is life. *shrug*


On 13 November 2003 (10:58 AM), mart said:

>If this were a real city, I'd be able to find Chinese food at 9:30 p.m.

well it IS and you CAN, though if you're referring to whatever part of the city Clackamas CC is in or the greater metropolitan Canby area, then yr shit out of luck...

but if Portland's the city in question, then much great Chinese can be had after 9:30. rather than grocery stores, you might consider Chinatown. or one of my fave late night spots: "legin" at 82nd and se division.

i know it's not new york or hong kong or san francisco, but portland's got pretty damned good chinese and late too.


On 13 November 2003 (10:58 AM), tammy said:

Many times when I write Iahve to consciencely take the pronouns out of a sentence to see what to use for I and me. You'd think by now it would come easy! Two huge abuses to the language that just galls me is the misuse of seen and saw and were and was! Yikes. It grates like fingernails on a chalkboard!

And Jd, how dare you say Oregon City is not a real city. I'll have you know that it's a very up and coming city to say the least! And also, do you realize (I'm sure you do) that when you got he college you are exactly 7/10 of a mile from my place and that when you go to Haggans you're even closer? Call me sometime and we'll have coffee by the fireplace in the Haggans deli or somewhere. Goodness I'd love an hour out in the evening!

So next time you get to this real city and hae the time give me a buzz.

And by the way we are far more of a city than that little wannabe burg where you live! So there!


On 13 November 2003 (11:05 AM), Dana said:

"Me fail English? That's unpossible!" -- Ralph Wiggum


On 13 November 2003 (11:12 AM), Jeff said:

"They misunderestimated me." -George W. Bush


On 13 November 2003 (01:58 PM), Denise said:

Hey Grammar Boy - better find Typo Boy and tell him about "Surely the mush have something they can sell me?"


On 13 November 2003 (02:17 PM), J.D. said:

Unfortunately, Typo Boy is not to be found. However, I live with Typo Woman and, also fortunately, have you, Typo Girl, reading my weblog.

And, you know, I proofread extra-carefully when I'm ranting about errors for which I do not want to be condemned myself. Invariably, I miss some. :/


On 13 November 2003 (03:25 PM), Johnny Doe said:

Of course, you could compose your posting in a word processor, spell check it, and then paste it into your blog software (although it probably wouldn't help with "mush").


On 13 November 2003 (03:27 PM), J.D. said:

Johnny boy, that is exactly my modus operandi.


On 13 November 2003 (03:56 PM), Pero said:

I do not have a big problem distinguishing between when to use "I" or "me".

"Who" and "whom" have caused me to look fairly stupid from time to time. This happens most often when I have not been sleeping much.

Some of my pet peeves:
"I seen him do it once"

People that abouse "..."

your, you're / to, too, two (etc.)


On 13 November 2003 (03:59 PM), Denise said:

Ah - Johnny is not immune to the typo. "..but using they gym as the pot." See, we all fall victim to the typo!


On 13 November 2003 (04:07 PM), Denise said:

Not to bring up an old topic of debate - but I don't suppose we're still getting brownie points for typos, eh?

Just checking.

And while I'm at it, we shouldn't forget the classic mistake with don't, such as: "He don't know how to tie his own shoes."


On 13 November 2003 (04:51 PM), Lynn said:

I have issues with the misuses of apostrophes and conjugation. I don't like it when people use an apostrophe when something is simply plural, not possessive. I list these among my pet peeves: its/it's and your/you're. We frequently receive formal requests for insurance from banks who have typed on their fax cover sheets the following phrase: it's successors and/or assigns. It should be its!


On 13 November 2003 (06:44 PM), J.D. said:

"Who" and "whom" have caused me to look fairly stupid

Ah. This one has a simple rule-of-thumb, too: use "whom" anywhere you'd use "him", and use "who" anywhere you'd use "he".


On 13 November 2003 (08:08 PM), Johnny Doe said:

Curses! Hypocrisy, my old nemesis!

Apparently I have some editing to do...


On 13 November 2003 (10:33 PM), tammy said:

Now that's the first I've heard who and whom clarified like that. I've always had problems with that too. Now it's all so simple!

I just want to say hi to old John Doe! Hi!


On 14 November 2003 (12:18 AM), dowingba said:

I guess this has become an all-you-can-eat grammar buffet. So my question is this: what are the rules concerning "towards" and "toward"?


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