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04 March 2004 — The Queue (25)

Kris and I don't fight about money; we fight about our Netflix queue.

We've been on a streak lately, in a rhythm, watching one Netflix movie a night. Sunday it was Thirteen (disturbing, but good), Monday it was Freaky Friday (fluffy fun), Tuesday it was Welcome to the Dollhouse (I thought it was great, Kris thought it rang false). All three are Thematically Linked. I like to arrange The Queue so that similar films come one after the other.

We're in the middle of a transition from "teen years are hell" films to documentaries. Capturing the Friedmans has been top on our list for several days, but for some reason it hasn't shipped (despite the fact that no wait is indicated in The Queue). Today we received American Splendor, which makes Kris groan.

"Oh, thrilling," she says, "a movie about a comic strip writer. This is going to be thrilling."

She comes into the office to rearrange The Queue. She doesn't like what she sees. (Remember: our One Rule is that I can add anything I want to The Queue, but only Kris is allowed to touch the Top Ten. I'm not good at following this One Rule.)

"What is this Donnie Darko crap? I've never even heard of that."

"I think it's Thematically Linked to Thirteen and Welcome to the Dollhouse," I say, hoping she hasn't read a plot description. It is about a high-school student, but the Internet Movie Database plot outline is sure to leave her cold:

Highschooler Donnie is plagued by visions of a giant evil rabbit who orders him to commit acts of violence and predicts the impending end of the world.
Kris scoffs. She scorns my Thematic Links.

"And what's this A Scene at the Sea? A three-star foreign film? That's not going to be any good."

I try to defend myself, though I don't mention that A Scene at the Sea is Thematically Linked to the other Japanese films next to it in The Queue (Ikiru, Kikujiro, and The Hidden Fortress). I tell her, "You can't just judge the films by the star ratings. If we do, then you've got to let me bump Green Acres to the top of the list. Look: it gets 4-1/2 stars."

"Trust me. You don't want to watch Green Acres," Kris says. "It's like watching seven hours of Gilligan's Island."

I have to admit that seven hours of Gilligan's Island sounds like torture. But, then, the Gilligan's Island DVDs only get 3-1/2 stars, not 4-1/2 stars.

The more she sorts The Queue, the more things she finds wrong with it. "Half of these movies are on TCM all the time. In the Heat of the Night: all the time. The Remains of the Day: all the time. The Miracle Worker: All. The. Time. Apocalypse Now: once in a while. Romeo and Juliet: All. The. Time."

She pauses.

"Why do you have two Romeo and Juliets on here?" she asks.

"One's the Zeffirelli, one's the Luhrman," I say.

"We don't need two Romeo and Juliets in a row. Especially since we've seen them both before."

I try to explain my reasoning. "If we see them both together we can compare and contrast them. Besides, it's a Thematic Link. See? Richard III is in there, too." (So is Ran, which pulls double duty, tying together two Thematic Links: Shakespeare and Japanese film.)

She shakes her head, flabbergasted with me. "Oh, please! Besides we have the Zeffirelli on tape."

"That's not the same as watching it on DVD," I say.

"Yeah, I know," she says. "It's free!"

When we're done fighting about The Queue, Kris goes to make her dinner. "Are we going to watch your movie?" she asks when her food is ready.

"I thought you didn't want to watch it," I say.

"I don't want to watch it, but I want you to watch it so that we can get rid of it and get something good."

She notices I'm transcribing our dialogue. "Hey! Don't write that down," she says. "Don't weblog this." When I refuse to stop — and, in fact, laugh at the situation, which I find amusing — she whirls to leave, announcing, "The cats don't like you anymore."

There you have it, friends: if you want to save your marriage — and for your cats to like you — do not join Netflix.

Addendum: we never did watch American Splendor tonight. I spent hours indulging my resurgent Civ3 addiction while Kris read George Eliot and watched The West Wing.

Both of us sulked.

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Comments
On 03 March 2004 (11:25 PM), Schmela said:

Very entertaining post. We haven't tried out Netflix yet, and after reading this, I must admit I'm a little afraid to...sounds like something we'd argue about. ;-) I'm certain I'd end up watching way too many John Woo movies.


On 04 March 2004 (05:01 AM), Dana said:

Sorry JD -- I agree with Kris. Two Romeo and Juliets in a row? Both of which you've seen?

I do have to admit, though, that Donnie Darko sounds intriguing.

(Re: Green Acres - It's more like a combo marathon of The Brady Bunch, Gilligan's Island, and Hee-Haw. Shudder...)


On 04 March 2004 (06:49 AM), tammy said:

I have not sat and watched a movie in my livng room for over a year. There's never any time. The last DVD I watched was Bridgett Jones Diary and I fell asleep about a third of the way into it. I had borrowed it from the neighbor. After keeping it for a couple of months I returned it unwatched. We have not rented a movie to watch in probabaly -yikes-6 or 7 years. Maybe longer. Netflix sounds like such a great deal and yet... we'd never get around to watching any of them.


On 04 March 2004 (07:24 AM), Joel said:

You're right Tammy, Netflix is only a good deal if you watch quite frequently... or if you're terrible at returning things on time.
I, too, have had a yen to see Donnie Darko since it came out. Aimee's never been interested, however, saying that the evil bunny on the poster is too disturbing. I can understand that, but, on the other hand, Patrick Swayze plays an evil motivational counselor!


On 04 March 2004 (08:55 AM), J.D. said:

HA! For some reason The Queue skipped over Kris' re-ordered #1, About a Boy. Netflix is sending the second disc for Curb Your Enthusiasm instead. Kris didn't care for the first disc.

So, the DVDs we have out right now are American Splendor, Donnie Darko, and Curb Your Enthusiasm. It's like a nightmare for Kris.

I keep telling her to add more stuff to The Queue, but she doesn't like it to get long. In her ideal world, there would never be anything in The Queue except for the next film we plan on borrowing. Me? I put everything I think I might want to watch in The Queue, so I don't have to try to remember an obscure movie later. So I've got 60+ movies waiting for me, but that makes it so Kris is reluctant to add anything.

The Queue is evil, man, I'm telling you. It's a major source of friction in our lives. It's almost like we need two Netflix accounts, one for me and one for Kris...


On 04 March 2004 (08:56 AM), Lynn said:

JD, I'm anxious to get your feedback on both American Splendor and Capturing the Friedmans, both of which I watched. I will not share my opinion until after you've watched them.

Unlike Kris and Dana, I think two R&J's in a row sounds like heaven. Have you ever seen the Pacino documentary, "Finding Richard?" I liked it.


On 04 March 2004 (08:57 AM), Denise said:

I have seen Donnie Darko - it is quite random, and overall, I would give it a D-. If I hadn't been sick on the couch with nothing but daytime t.v. to watch, I would never have watched the ending.


On 04 March 2004 (09:00 AM), J.D. said:

Ooh...good one, Lynn. I've been meaning to see Finding Richard. I wanted to add it to The Queue, right after the other Shakespeare stuff (it's Thematically Linked, after all), but Netflix doesn't have it.

I brought my iBook to work with me today, and I'm trying to watch American Splendor between phone calls and price quotations and order requests, etc. It makes for spotty watching, but I'm trying to be at least a little considerate by getting this watched in time to put it in today's mail. (Then we can have a movie Kris wants for the weekend.)

And Denise, you're not helping! :)


On 04 March 2004 (09:07 AM), Tiffany said:

Go with the two accounts.

FYI, there are West Wing extra tryouts near my house on Saturday! I am considering going to them even though they are looking for dark hair and olive skin. West Wing will be filming a ‘desert scene’ by the Salton Sea later this month.


On 04 March 2004 (09:16 AM), Denise said:

Sorry J.D.! :) But Aimee is right, that rabbit could give anyone nightmares.


On 04 March 2004 (09:38 AM), jenefer said:

jd
Since you know Kris's reluctance to add to a long list and you are afraid you will forget movies that only come in to your mind once and never surface again, keep a separate list and solve two problems. If this is just fodder for an extremely entertaining blog entry, then keep it up. I love the comment about the cats, as if anyone can control a cat's emotions.


On 04 March 2004 (09:56 AM), Dana said:

JD,

Not only should you keep a seperate list, but keep it either on your iBook or here on your blog site somewhere. I mean, to add it to The Queue you have to use their website interface. So use yours and make both your lives easier...

If you're going for a Shakespeare jag, don't forget Strange Brew (which is an adaption of Hamlet) and Forbidden Planet (which is The Tempest). I missed Scotland PA when it came out (it's MacBeth in a burger joint) but I really want to see it. And Titus. And if you haven't seen Othello with Laurence Fishburne and Kenneth Brannagh as probably the most likeably evil Iago ever, then I really suggest it (it's not one of Brannagh's adaptions -- he's just acting in it, and he really does a good job).

Denise, have you seen Buckaroo Banzai? Did you like it?


On 04 March 2004 (10:02 AM), Buckaroo Banzai said:

Always remember:

No matter where you go, there you are.


On 04 March 2004 (10:12 AM), Joel said:

Yeah, Ken's a good Iago in that version, and it's the only post-70s Othello I've ever heard of, but it's still overall kind of crap.
Mystery Science Theater 3000 featured a pretty dreary dubbed post-WWII Hamlet version filmed in Germany (get all that?) that was fairly amusing.


On 04 March 2004 (10:44 AM), Lynn said:

I loved "My Own Private Idaho," which used the whole Hal rejects Falstaff storyline from Henry IV (sorry I don't remember which part, I, II, or III). It was directed by Portland native Gus Van Sant in Portland and starred River Phoenix and Keanu Reeves. Good stuff as far as Shakespeare rip-offs go.


On 04 March 2004 (10:46 AM), Denise said:

No, Dana, I haven't - I'll have to check it out and let you know!


On 04 March 2004 (11:01 AM), Denise said:

Uh oh, Lynn's talkin' Shakespeare...here we go! ;)


On 04 March 2004 (11:16 AM), Lynn said:

"Methinks the lady doth protest too much."


On 04 March 2004 (11:28 AM), J.D. said:

American Splendor is so real. I like it. I like it a lot. In particular, for obvious reasons I like some of the mostly unspoken subtext regarding what it means to document your own life and the lives of those around you. I've been thinking about that a lot lately.

There are some low points to the film, when the negativity just gets too overwhelming, but there are also a dozen little gems, such as the short scene in which Harvey is sitting on the toilet, reading the first letter from Joyce. The cat is sitting next to him, in the bathtub, just staring out. This is real life! :)

And, when Harvey first meets Joyce, he takes her to a restaurant. He's having trouble deciding because there's too much meat on the menu. "Ever since I got a pet cat, I've had a lot of trouble eating animals," he tells her.

Later, when they go back to his apartment, which is a messy mash of books and records:

Harvey: I was going to clean up, but I figured why give you a false impression. The truth is, I have a serious problem with cleanliness.

Joyce: Harvey, can you get me a glass of water and a few aspirin?

Harvey: What, you got a headache?

Joyce: No, but I want to avoid one.
But my favorite scene is this one, outside in the hospital parking lot:
Harvey's friend, Toby, is sitting in his car listening to The Pina Colada song by Rupert Holmes plays. Toby, a prototypical nerd, is eating box after box of White Castle hamburgers. Harvey approaches, bends down to talk to him through the open passenger window.

Harvey: Hey, Toby.

Toby: No, you can't have any of my White Castle hamburgers, so please don't even ask.

Harvey: Yeah? Can I have a fry?

Toby: Okay, but just a couple, Harvey. I'm not going to be eating dinner until very late, and this has got to hold me over.

Harvey: Yeah? What have you got, a church function?

Toby: No, I'm driving [from Cleveland] to Toledo to see a movie. Would you like to come?

Harvey: Uh, no, you know, I gotta go to Delaware tonight. I'm getting married.

Toby: Oh?

Harvey: Yeah.

Toby: Why Delaware?

Harvey: Well, you know, the chick I'm marrying is from Wilmington. You know, plus I gotta help her move her stuff back here. (confused) Why are you driving to Toledo to see a movie, Tobe?

Toby: It's not playing at the Mapletown.

Harvey: Okay.

Toby: I didn't know you had a girlfriend, Harvey.

Harvey: Yeah, we met last week.

(Harvey gets in the car)

Harvey: Tobe, what movie could possibly be worth driving 260 miles roundtrip for?

(Toby swallows a huge bite of White Castle hamburgers)

Toby: It's a new film called Revenge of the Nerds. It's about a group of nerd college students who are being picked on all the time by the jocks, so they decide to take revenge.

Harvey: So what you're saying is you identify with those nerds?

Toby: Yes, I consider myself a nerd, and this movie has uplifted me. There's this one scene where a nerd grabs the microphone during a pep rally, and he announces that he is a nerd and proud of it, and stands up for the rights of other nerds.

Harvey: Right on.

Toby: Then he asks all the kids at the pep rally who think they are nerds to come forward. So... (chokes on his bite of White Castle hambugers) So nearly everyone in the place does. That's the wya the movie ends.

Harvey: So the nerds won, huh?

Toby: Yes.

Harvey: All right. (Looks at watch) Wow, you know, you got this movie and I'm getting hitched. We both had a good month, huh? (Gets out of car with a box of White Castle fries in hand)

Toby: Right.

Harvey: Yeah. (Walks away.)

Toby: (Rolls down window) Harvey. Harvey!

Harvey: Yeah. What?

Toby: How long are you going to be in Delaware? Because I'd really like to see this movie with you.

Harvey: Yeah, I don't know man, I'm gonna be gone like a week, but then, you know, I'm gonna have a wife. So, you know, I'm gonna have to bring her along, too. (Considers) Is it a girl flick?

Toby: Depends on the girl. What kind of girl is your new bride? Is she a nerd?

Harvey: I don't know, man. Maybe. Yeah. She's into herbal tea.
I love that scene. I watched it three times, and then played it again for my brother, Tony. Wonderful stuff. I'm sorry Kris didn't want to watch it.


On 04 March 2004 (11:40 AM), Lynn said:

I was impressed with how close the actor was to the real Toby!


On 04 March 2004 (12:01 PM), Aimee said:

Ah ... Revenge of the Nerds. Now there's a classic film ... I'll never forget the first time I saw it, when I was in the third grade. What say I say? I was a latch-key key and we had cable. Third grade was brilliant ...


On 04 March 2004 (02:06 PM), Amanda said:

American Splendor was simply a great film. I never read comic books growing up, don't even like them, and am about as far removed from a nerd as one can get, but the movie rang true. Probably for just the reason that J.D. stated--it's real. And real good.


On 05 March 2004 (12:44 AM), nate said:

Watched Donnie Darko yet? God I love that movie.


On 05 March 2004 (02:22 PM), Laura said:

My husband likes movies, but has no problem with me "controlling" the Netflix queue. I make an effort to balance the rentals -- some stuff we both like, some more his style, some more mine. . . it works for us.

Recommended: "O"
"A controversial, modern retelling of Shakespeare's "Othello" that takes place in an exclusive boarding school where Odin James (Mekhi Phifer) is the star basketball player and sole black student. Odin's beautiful girlfriend, Desi (Julia Stiles), adores him, and his coach (Martin Sheen) loves him like a son. But jealousy drives the coach's real son, Hugo (Josh Hartnett), into an elaborate and deadly scheme to knock Odin off his exalted perch." [description from Netflix site]


On 07 March 2004 (01:41 AM), kaibutsu said:

Hmmm... You should pick up 'Throne of Blood' some time. It's Kurosawa's retelling of Macbeth; it came out far prior to Ran. I love Kurosawa's work; been meaning to see this one for months. Even rented it twice and never found time to watch it either time around. (If only I worked for the box factory...) But given how much I like his other work from that period, it should be a bang--up job. If you get to it before I do, do please drop me a line with your thoughts!


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