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03 June 2004 — Power Tools (14)

Now that we're buying an old house, I fear that my existing set of skills and knowledge will prove inadequate to provide maintenance and upkeep. For an undertaking of this nature, one ought to know something of plumbing, electrical work, and, especially, woodworking.

I've not done much with woodworking in my life. Dad had a nice selection of tools, but I always resented them. I took shop from Mr. Choate in seventh grade. I built the three raised beds we use for our vegetable garden. One Saturday morning a decade ago, I built a small greenhouse while Dad sat nearby, dying of cancer, giving me advice, watching me work. I've repaired the back fence behind the house. Three times. Poorly.

Now I'm faced with daunting tasks of all sorts: reinforcing floor joists, shoring sagging porches, building a set of steps (with railing?) for the back porch, etc.

I have no doubt that I can learn handyman skills — if nothing else, I can take shop classes at the community college — it's just that I don't currently have them, and because of that, I feel intimidated.

My brother, Tony, finds this all very amusing. He knows I've lived for thirty-five years in a world made mostly of thought. He is entertained by the prospect of his big brother confronted by the real, by the physical.

"You'll need to get some tools," he told me.

"I have some tools," I said. But then I thought about it a bit. "But not many."

"Do you have a drill?" he asked.

"Yeah, I've got a cordless drill," I said.

"How big is it?" he asked.

"I don't know," I said. "I guess about this big." And I framed its size with my hands.

"No," said Tony. "How many volts?"

"I don't know. I think it says something like 8.4v on the side."

Tony laughed. "You're going to need some new tools."

And he's right, of course. I've always been proud to have avoided the need for tools, especially power tools. They were anathema to me. Now, suddenly, they're atehma. (Okay, so I made up that last word...)

To get help, I posted a question at AskMetafilter, and got some wonderful responses. (Have I mentioned that I love AskMetafilter? It's superior to the main site in many ways. I love the idea that a member can post any question and the other members will do their best to answer it.)

Fortunately, many of my friends have already begun to set up shops. Craig has a nice shop. Joel (S.) has a nice shop. If I buy the basics, I'm sure I can borrow tools for specialized tasks, or rent them.

Still, it would help to actually know what I need.

On the way to work this morning, I stopped at Thriftway to buy a copy of Fine Woodworking magazine. I've got to start someplace.

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Comments
On 03 June 2004 (09:54 AM), Dana said:

Ye gods.

I know you. You'll uber-focus on this and end up with all sorts of fancy junk you don't need. Norm Abrams on This Old House has a laser guided chop saw.

Here's what you need:

  • Saw -- crosscut or circular, probably both
  • Jig saw -- preferably with removable blades. Come to think of it, do they even make them without removeable blades?
  • Screwdriver set
  • Adjustable wrench
  • Rasp
  • Sawhorses -- you can build your own out of a few 2x4s and some random scrap; good practice
  • Hammer
  • Powered Drill -- I think you'll want like a 19 or 20 volt, but listen to Tony
  • Square
  • Level
  • C-Clamps
  • Wood Glue
  • Pencils
  • Tape Measure
  • Yardstick
  • Nailset
  • Pliers
  • Vice-grip
  • Socket Set
  • "Wonderbar"/Crowbar

Notice the lack of many power tools there?

Stuff that's Nice, and maybe needed for special projects:

  • Vice
  • Router
  • Chisel set
  • Mitre Box -- you can make your own out of some 2x4s if you have a compass or can do simple trig; good practice
  • 'Angle clamps' -- for picture frames
  • Ampmeter/voltmeter (you and electricity may not be a good match...)
  • Chalk line
  • Glass cutter

Anything beyond that starts to get esoteric, IMHO. Granted, I don't have a house, but my Gramps was a farmer and we did a fair amount of helping out him or Dad as kids. Carpentry is a lot like UNIX -- small tools which do one thing well, requiring you to be clever in how you fit them together to accomplish a job. A cross-cut saw, a hammer, screwdrivers, a drill, wood-glue, a tape-measure, and a level can take you an awful long way.

Start watching This Old House and pay attention to Tommy and Norm. They know what they're doing. And ignore Norm's wizz-bang gadgets -- you can do everything he does with much simpler, cheaper, equipment.


On 03 June 2004 (10:31 AM), jenefer said:

I agree with Dana. Remember that the house was built mostly without power tools. The power just makes it easier for you. Then, register at Home Depot for your house-warming and let people know.

Jenefer


On 03 June 2004 (10:50 AM), Lynn said:

I don't know if you're much of a garage saler, but I have an entire garage full of tools that my dad has gotten at garage sales. Skill saw, saber saw, hammers, screw drivers, cordless drills, corded drills, and various lawn tools. These are all things that I love to use, but would never have purchased them new. A tip on cordless drills - my dad often gets them at garage sales for a couple of bucks when they have quit working because most drills (craftsman, mikita, dewalt) have a small fuse inside that often blows. He buys a 6-pack of fuses for under $2. A guy at Sears showed him how to change it. I own 3 cordless drills (9v, 12v and 14v) because of his thrifty shopping. Note: I only use the small ones because I don't really build things - I just tinker.


On 03 June 2004 (10:55 AM), Anthony said:
you can do everything he does with much simpler, cheaper, equipment.
Right. Simply take a tour of some historic house. Look at the woodwork. Look at the furniture. Look at the windows. Think deeply. Then go to Home Depot and sneer at the power tools.

After this, you can go ahead and get the power tools you really need, without succumbing to the happy-faced-weekend-handyman syndrome that leaves your wallet empty and your garage full of gadgets.


On 03 June 2004 (11:09 AM), Dave said:

Dana's pretty much on the money, but for what it's worth, here's what I'd recommend.

Circular saw (a "skil saw")
a hand saw
cordless drill (about 18 volts is plenty, but get a good one- quality is worthwhile in this instance. Also, make sure that you get one that Kris can easily handle. Karen loves my cordless drill but because it's slightly too large for her she sometimes can't do certain things. You and Kris are closer in size than Karen and I so this may be less of an issue if you get one that's comfortable for you)
a level (of reasonable size)
a square
tape measure
vice grips, screwdrivers, pliers (regular and the larger type the name of which I now forget)
hammer and nail sets
a small hand sander
a compound miter saw (forget the miter box, just bite the bullet and get the real saw- you'll never regret it)
cresent wrenches and a socket set
a small jigsaw is nice to have
a cordless screwdriver (get the small DeWalt that rachets in the middle and you can use as a small cordless drill in addition to using as a screwdriver)


On 03 June 2004 (01:35 PM), Amanda said:

I adore power tools. My only advice--buy DeWalt. They're the best.


On 03 June 2004 (01:50 PM), Schmela said:

Our three most-borrowed tools:

  • A compound miter saw that is probably our best tool purchase. It gets used for everything. I only wish we had bought the saw before replacing window/door trim in two bedrooms.
  • A 12V Dewalt cordless drill that shames our old 12V cordless Craftsman drill. Not sure why there would be such a difference in power...but I'm pretty sure the Dewalt cost a pretty penny more though. Christmas is good.
  • A circular saw.

On 03 June 2004 (02:17 PM), Tiffany said:

Rich owns only Craftmans non-power tools and Dewalt Power tools. He had been very unhappy with the Craftmans power tools in the past and returned all of them.
Remember you can buy cheap (or used) tools to start and replace them ater if you use that tool a lot.


On 03 June 2004 (02:29 PM), Jon said:

I faced a similar experience when I bought my house a few years back -- not much knowledge, a lack of tools. Since then, I have done quite a bit:

  • wired the house with ethernet, speaker wire and coax (for cable)
  • added an attic space to our garage for storage

  • demolished the kitchen down to the studs

  • did all the electrical work for the kitchen remodel as well as all the insulation and painting

Given all of that, I have a bunch of tools now, but I think the most used of them are:

  • Circular saw

  • Jigsaw (Bosch 1587AVSK is a great machine)

  • Cordless drill (I bought a Makita kit that works fine even for drilling with spade bits)

  • sawhorses

  • hammer, screwdrivers, socket and open ended wrenches


Don't forget a good extension cord, or two. It really helps to have friends who know what they are doing too. :)


On 03 June 2004 (05:30 PM), Lisa said:

Craig has a subscription to Fine Homebuilding, if you ever need a back issue.


On 08 March 2005 (04:08 PM), Terry Atkins said:

I would like to request a catalog


On 08 March 2005 (04:08 PM), Terry Atkins said:

I would like to request a catalog


On 08 March 2005 (04:08 PM), Terry Atkins said:

I would like to request a catalog


On 08 April 2005 (11:48 AM), deborah collin said:

I bought a house with extentive landscape, 1.5 acres with the house and porches 3100 sq ft. I use not chemicals, lots of weeding. I have 3 compost piles, 3x3x20+feet. Two years ago this spring I was putting everything into it from the garden, especially at late fall. I now know about grass seeds.
Point, I want to buy a chipper/shedder and I need one that will stand up to the ongoing use of it maybe all day at one time, one that has the ability to standup to 3-12 full black bags depending on the month, but they're bags going to the dump and it is depressing to see this knowing I could make great dirt. And I have a huge amount of branches of various lenghts and size.
I did rent one and when it was delivered I was all day with bags and branches plus what the boys were bringing to me and the result was wonderfull, salsa. I am now on the last two piles and I want to to start again with a shedder of my own.
So, could you advise me on one who the company you feel would fit a girl who loves the smell of healthy dirt, who has alot of ground in the NW, who only knows manitence is require of all tools and mach but knows litte about sparkplugs.
Thank You for your time in answering my question and for any imformation that would make it easier and cost effective to keep the cost down on having to pay for Starving Students who would be happier doing other things because I now have tools for them. Deborah


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