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15 June 2004 — American Dream (22)

Kris and I have always hoarded food.

We each keep a pantry shelf stocked to overflowing with our favorite canned goods. The fridge is filled with fruits and vegetables and cheeses and sauces, some of which have long since gone bad. The freezer compartment is crammed with frozen vegetables and pre-packaged dinners, sometimes years old.

We hoard food.

We're not sure why we do this. There are only two of us, after all, and though the cats like when we feed them tuna, there's no need for us to have a dozen cans of the stuff.

I hypothesize that my own hoarding instinct comes from growing up poor. We didn't always have the foods that we wanted. Now that I can control my own eating destiny, I feel the need to have seven cans of Nalley's chili with beans on hand. I must have three bottles of Thai fish sauce. Those extra kalamata olive are a neccessity.

We came to an agreement this afternoon: in the new house, we'll hoard less food. We'll keep a list of those items we always like to have on hand, and we'll stock one of each. One can of Nalley's chili. One bottle of fish sauce. One container of kalamata olives. When we use our stock, we'll make a note on the list indicating that we need to buy some more.

"Plus," I said, "then we'll have room for beef. I think we should go together with another family or two and buy a side of beef."

Kris shook her head.

"That sounds like the ultimate in hoarding to me."


This move is humbling. I am awed that Kris and I have reached a place in our lives where we can afford to buy this beautiful house. Having grown up poor, I now feel relatively wealthy, and this humbles me, as if I don't deserve it.

The other night at book group, Denise mentioned that our generation is supposed to be the first that doesn't do as well as the one before it (financially). We, as "Generation X" (or whatever you want to call us), aren't supposed to have as good a life as our parents had. Yet I think every one of us in the room could say that wasn't true. Our lives do seem better than the ones our parents had. We do feel better off.

For my part, I provided the following anecdote: I wanted to go to college, but I knew that my parents couldn't afford to send me. I knew that I wauld have to send myself. I wasn't particularly good at saving money (it's a life-long flaw), so I worked to obtain scholarships.

I wasn't the smartest student; I wasn't an athlete; I didn't get the best grades; I didn't have the most activities; I wasn't even wholly obsessed with college; however, I was well-rounded, had something to show in each of these categories. And I tested well.

In the end, that was enough. I attended a fine university on scholarship. And then frittered away the opportunity.

"I knew I didn't want to have any part in the box business," I told the book group. "I applied myself so that I'd have a chance to go to college and do something else with my life. What do you think happened? When I got out of college, I went to work for the box business. And here I am."

And here I am.

As of this afternoon, we'll officially own the house in Oak Grove.

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Comments
On 15 June 2004 (06:28 AM), Amanda said:

You do deserve it!


On 15 June 2004 (06:31 AM), tammy said:

Keeping only one can of something is not efficient. One can of beans does not allow for unexpected company, or making a bean soup, or making baked beans, or a myriad of other things. It also means that you have to remember to run to the store every time you're out. The idea of canning something is to prolong it's shelf life and so it will store without spoiling. What's wrong with having seven cans of tuna? And what about sales. To store only one bottle of something would not be taking advantage of sales at all. It saves money to buy more than one. It's not hoarding, it's called being prepared or a larder well stocked or as I said before just plain efficiency.

Now the freezer is another matter. Frozen items are usually not good after 6 months or a year. But jd ahs it ever dawned on you that you guys are making all these resolutions including about the "new house" and yet when you move to the new house you will still be you? Statistically you only have a shot at actually accomplishing one of those goals and really making it a life habit, and even that chance is slim. It's like all the new years resolutions people make. Few ever stick with them.

It don't hurt to try to become something you are not but be prepared to discover that at the end of an idyllic day in the yellow dream house you are still you and Kris is still Kris and that it's okay.


On 15 June 2004 (07:25 AM), J.D. said:

So, Tammy, are you saying we shouldn't even try? Believe, I'm well aware that lifestyle changes rarely stick. Unless they involve, say, eating more pizza. :)


On 15 June 2004 (08:00 AM), Nikchick said:

I'm a food hoarder too, and I, too, blame it on growing up poor. Unfortunately, I'm not a terribly efficient food hoarder, which means I have too much food that spoils because I do not know how to properly preserve it, or because I buy more than I can actually use "just in case."

On the other hand, my food hoarding came in handy when I was living in Canada, pregnant wife of a grad student, and my husband's summer job suddenly fell through. There we were, unemployed, in a foreign country, living on student loans, but because of my hoard of food we made it through the summer fat and happy, bellies full and baby healthy.


On 15 June 2004 (08:09 AM), tammy said:

No you can definitely try, but I think in the area of canned goods it's wiser to have seven cans of tuna then one can. It's just that you seem to have made so many resolutions and I just wondered if it had dawned on you that your house would stay in perfect order; your slobbiness only allowed on the upper floor and the pantry with only one can of each thing. Yeh, it would stay just like that except for one little problem; jd's going to live there!

Have you ever heard the old saying that a pig in a new pigpen is still a pig.

Now don't get ruffled dear cousin. I don't mean you're a pig by any means. I only quoted that for the value thats in it regarding people. Yikes, maybe I'd better just quit. :)


On 15 June 2004 (08:26 AM), Joel said:

The anecdote about JD winding up at Custom Box Service got a huge laugh at book club. In print, however, it really has a more mournful, "Death of a Salesman" feel to it. I have nothing but admiration for the Brothers (and cousin) Roth, small and family-owned businesses are an important and endangered part of our culture.


On 15 June 2004 (08:38 AM), J.D. said:

Joel: The anecdote about JD winding up at Custom Box Service got a huge laugh at book club. In print, however, it really has a more mournful, "Death of a Salesman" feel to it.

I noticed this even as I was writing it last night. I tried various phraseologies, but nothing seemed to work. Strange, eh?

I almost introduced the truth vs. Truth debate here, too, since several of you were at book group. I thought it'd be interesting to compare perceptions of that particular moment in time, compare recollections of the anecdote. Then I decided that was stupid. :)

Tammy: Have you ever heard the old saying that a pig in a new pigpen is still a pig.

I just think your attitude seems pessimistic: "Peole don't change so why bother trying?" I'd rather try something and fail than to think I couldn't do it. Maybe you'd have more dieting success with a more positive attitude, for example.

See my Action Girl entry; you're violating principle number two.


On 15 June 2004 (08:38 AM), Johnny said:

I'm just too damn lazy to horde food. I only buy what I need (except for the ice cream and chips, which I don't need, but really want), eat it and then wonder why I don't have any more food. Oh, sure, I could dip into the sugar bin if I wanted to, but that looks almost as bad as sitting around eating a stick of butter.


On 15 June 2004 (08:55 AM), tammy said:

Oh admittedly my attitude is pessimistic. While I admire you optimism I doubt it's fruition in real life. Pessimistic? yep.

But there's no point in trying I guess.


On 15 June 2004 (09:03 AM), pril said:

there's a happy medium with what i call "mormon shopping". Instead of 10 cans of tuna, 5 is good. 7 cans of chili? keep 4. I like to have at least 2 cans of stuff around. There's just two of us in the house anyway. stuff like canned peas and corn and things i like having 4 around cos you can use them in so much. I don't have a pantry though and my cupboards have been puny as long as i can remember.


On 15 June 2004 (09:07 AM), Denise said:

I must disagree, J.D., I may be the only one in book group to be in the boat, but I will most likely not do as well as my parents have done financially. I have done well, don't get me wrong...but they have done really well with their business...and even with my MBA, unless I started a business of my own, I could not reach the level they have reached.

It's ok though - I like my 'level' and am happy with it.

On the food hoarding, I would try to stock two of some of the things you use a lot (like perhaps twice in one week - like chili) or things that are small (like olives). It is also good to restock on sauces and such when you get low, not when you run out or you'll be stuck one day with no sauce that you need and then your efforts not to hoard will be destroyed.


On 15 June 2004 (09:09 AM), J.D. said:

Pril: there's a happy medium with what i call "mormon shopping".

HA!

I had forgotten the Mormon aspect of this equation.

As most of you know, I grew up Mormon. Though poor, we did have food storage, as all Mormons are encouraged to do. We had a "store room" out in the shop, and it was filled with barrels of flour and cans of fruit and all sorts of freeze-dried stuff.

Maybe this is the true source of my hoarding tendencies...


On 15 June 2004 (09:29 AM), jenefer said:

I never heard of "mormon shopping" but I love the term. It seems to fit. However, I don't consider being prepared as hoarding. I always felt that the people who do the cooking and food preparation are more subject to having enough on hand to put a meal on the table, no matter who comes. Even on short notice. I thought and think it is an admirable trait. Those cooks who have to run to the store at the last minute are not prepared. This is bad. I wouldn;t have 3 jars of green olives in my house, but that is a personal taste thing. The negative is if there are three open jars of olives. Being organized and knowing what you have in the house is a great goal for the new house. Don't give up being prepared though. How close is your new market?


On 15 June 2004 (10:07 AM), Joel said:

There are times when just having a few things around can result in a terrific meal, however. Last night we decided to have pasta, but discovered that we were out of the usual Trader Joe's tomato sauce. Improvising, we discovered an unopened can of tomato pesto, some Nicoise olives, and a few shreds of quatro fromagio. Thrown altogether it wound up being the best pasta I've had in a few months.


On 15 June 2004 (12:39 PM), Tiffany said:

Hello from MO.
I buy in groceries in groups: 3 boxes of tissues, 5 boxes of rice, 2 bottles of tomato sauce. That only works because I will not buy another bottle of tomato sauce (or what even it is) until the first 2 are gone. If I do not need the sauce I will not buy it, even if I have a coupon or they are on sale. They will be on sale again.
I also am realy good at shopping from a list and only buying what is on the list.
Maybe you need to try harder on the pantry orgainization (oh, Great Organizer) so that you know that you have 4 cans of something.


On 15 June 2004 (11:10 PM), Nikchick said:

Johnny wrote: "Oh, sure, I could dip into the sugar bin if I wanted to, but that looks almost as bad as sitting around eating a stick of butter."

Ha! I say throw caution to the wind and try dipping the stick of butter in the sugar bin!


On 16 June 2004 (07:23 AM), Dana said:
Ha! I say throw caution to the wind and try dipping the stick of butter in the sugar bin!

This year at the Minnesota State Fair, I predict:

Sugar Coated Deep Fried Butter -- on a stick!

=)


On 16 June 2004 (07:26 AM), J.D. said:

It's not deep-fried sugar-coated butter on a stick, but it's close: every year at the St. Paul Rodeo, I like to get a deep-fried Snickers bar.

Mmmmm...

Each one shortens my life expectancy by 174 days.


On 16 June 2004 (08:43 AM), Lynn said:

Anyone ever tried a deep-fried Oreo?


On 16 June 2004 (10:14 AM), Paul said:

National Public Radio is a "bad" influence. As part of their radio essay on Arkansas's governor, we the audience learn about deep fried snickers bars, twinkies and oreos. Not too much longer later, those same sensual foods get described here! Coincidence?!?!? NPR is trying to subvert a good diet!


On 16 June 2004 (10:17 AM), Denise said:

Hmm...I've seen deep-fried Snickers at various fairs for the last couple of years. I must admit I've made fun of them and now am scared to buy one as I'm sure I would love it and have to have one every year at the fair.


On 16 June 2004 (10:56 AM), Lynn said:

Actually, I learned about deep-fried Snickers and Oreos on a Food Channel special entitled "Deep Fried Favorites." mmmmm cholesterol.


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